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Re: Make Poison a viable skill!!!
Posted: August 30th, 2017, 4:53 am
by atomic chicken
Well his justification is diversity, but a lot of those things were changed due to being imbalanced. Keeping balanced/counterable templates in mind going back to those pubs wouldn't be a in our best interest.
Vander is trying to find a way to make Melee dexxers viable, currently there are few Melee templates that are viable and most of those are exploiting the wakizashi bug.
I support Looking into ep/poison would be good. Maybe even tweaking it. I think making poisoning viable is good to supplement with osi casting. But that's my proposed solution.
Re: Make Poison a viable skill!!!
Posted: August 30th, 2017, 5:39 am
by Loler
Yep everything i listed in the most recent post was the over the top shit that had no place in the game. The first post i made is all decent stuff that brings back alot of template diversity and isnt insanely op.
Hence why alot of top end pvpers of the time have agreed with me that pub 46 was an awful publish and considered a huge nail.
Re: Make Poison a viable skill!!!
Posted: August 30th, 2017, 12:13 pm
by The Silvertiger
Vander Nars wrote:As most pvpers know there is very lil template diversity on demise due to alot reasons that I dont feel like running the list down. However, there is a change that could help bring back some diversity. This change could also promote the use of melee dexxers in pvp again. In publish 71, greater cure potions chance to cure poison was nerfed so that deadly and lethal poison would be more effective. I'd like to see the admins consider this for demise.
http://www.uoguide.com/Publish_71
To highlight the changes for the ones too lazy to read thru the pub.
Greater Cure Potion Chance
25% vs Lethal Poison
45% vs Deadly Poison
75% vs Greater Poison
100% vs anything under greater
Looking to make poison a viable skill on TC?
Re: Make Poison a viable skill!!!
Posted: August 30th, 2017, 1:28 pm
by royal kapero2
Just do it @EOS !! Fix bugged poisoning for poor fencers versus bugged casting, steam and mortal noob archers no cooldown.
(and make lance two ranged) [hijacking thread like a boss].
Re: Make Poison a viable skill!!!
Posted: August 30th, 2017, 2:51 pm
by Vander Nars
The Silvertiger wrote:Vander Nars wrote:As most pvpers know there is very lil template diversity on demise due to alot reasons that I dont feel like running the list down. However, there is a change that could help bring back some diversity. This change could also promote the use of melee dexxers in pvp again. In publish 71, greater cure potions chance to cure poison was nerfed so that deadly and lethal poison would be more effective. I'd like to see the admins consider this for demise.
http://www.uoguide.com/Publish_71
To highlight the changes for the ones too lazy to read thru the pub.
Greater Cure Potion Chance
25% vs Lethal Poison
45% vs Deadly Poison
75% vs Greater Poison
100% vs anything under greater
Looking to make poison a viable skill on TC?
I assume like on osi that demise normally test changes on TC before taking them live but thank you for your pointless post.
Re: Make Poison a viable skill!!!
Posted: August 30th, 2017, 3:24 pm
by The Silvertiger
Vander Nars wrote:The Silvertiger wrote:Vander Nars wrote:As most pvpers know there is very lil template diversity on demise due to alot reasons that I dont feel like running the list down. However, there is a change that could help bring back some diversity. This change could also promote the use of melee dexxers in pvp again. In publish 71, greater cure potions chance to cure poison was nerfed so that deadly and lethal poison would be more effective. I'd like to see the admins consider this for demise.
http://www.uoguide.com/Publish_71
To highlight the changes for the ones too lazy to read thru the pub.
Greater Cure Potion Chance
25% vs Lethal Poison
45% vs Deadly Poison
75% vs Greater Poison
100% vs anything under greater
Looking to make poison a viable skill on TC?
I assume like on osi that demise normally test changes on TC before taking them live but thank you for your pointless post.
Usually, they go through a whole process in the bug report subforum. Thanks for putting it here in the wrong section. You're awesome.
Re: Make Poison a viable skill!!!
Posted: August 30th, 2017, 3:55 pm
by Bama
The Silvertiger wrote:Vander Nars wrote:The Silvertiger wrote:
Looking to make poison a viable skill on TC?
I assume like on osi that demise normally test changes on TC before taking them live but thank you for your pointless post.
Usually, they go through a whole process in the bug report subforum. Thanks for putting it here in the wrong section. You're awesome.
Vander Nars wrote:The Silvertiger wrote:Vander Nars wrote:As most pvpers know there is very lil template diversity on demise due to alot reasons that I dont feel like running the list down. However, there is a change that could help bring back some diversity. This change could also promote the use of melee dexxers in pvp again. In publish 71, greater cure potions chance to cure poison was nerfed so that deadly and lethal poison would be more effective. I'd like to see the admins consider this for demise.
http://www.uoguide.com/Publish_71
To highlight the changes for the ones too lazy to read thru the pub.
Greater Cure Potion Chance
25% vs Lethal Poison
45% vs Deadly Poison
75% vs Greater Poison
100% vs anything under greater
Looking to make poison a viable skill on TC?
I assume like on osi that demise normally test changes on TC before taking them live but thank you for your pointless post.
Back to back posts that made me lol
Very rare thing in this section
I thank both of you
Re: Make Poison a viable skill!!!
Posted: August 30th, 2017, 4:05 pm
by Vander Nars
The Silvertiger wrote:Vander Nars wrote:The Silvertiger wrote:
Looking to make poison a viable skill on TC?
I assume like on osi that demise normally test changes on TC before taking them live but thank you for your pointless post.
Usually, they go through a whole process in the bug report subforum. Thanks for putting it here in the wrong section. You're awesome.
So I should post a proposed change that is not a bug in the bug report section? Yeah so tell me more about how im posting in the wrong section.
Re: Make Poison a viable skill!!!
Posted: August 30th, 2017, 7:16 pm
by The Silvertiger
Changes go through the bug report subforum also. "More"
Re: Make Poison a viable skill!!!
Posted: August 30th, 2017, 8:39 pm
by Legacy
My two cents as essentially the last nox mage in the shard who doesn't do it only for tournaments:
DP Fields are already very strong. It's the poison spell and infectious strike that is a joke.Usually takes three spells to DP someone, and then they just chug to cure instantly with their autopot. Simply reducing the chance of curing the poison would greatly improve diversity, as you would not be able to shrug it off and scripts would have to be careful not to overdo it.
Re: Make Poison a viable skill!!!
Posted: August 30th, 2017, 9:45 pm
by Vander Nars
The Silvertiger wrote:Changes go through the bug report subforum also. "More"
Nothing in the bug report how to says that you should post suggestions their, it states " ABOUT
This section is mainly for the reporting of new bugs or missing features on Demise. If you wish to contribute osi data or even code feel free but this may not mean your report/code will be accepted, that will be done at our discretion." Im not reporting a bug or missing feature, im proposing a change that comes from SA so I put it in the place I figured was the most appropriate and you can go fuck off now.
Re: Make Poison a viable skill!!!
Posted: August 31st, 2017, 11:10 am
by The Silvertiger
Vander Nars wrote:The Silvertiger wrote:Changes go through the bug report subforum also. "More"
Nothing in the bug report how to says that you should post suggestions their, it states " ABOUT
This section is mainly for the reporting of new bugs or missing features on Demise. If you wish to contribute osi data or even code feel free but this may not mean your report/code will be accepted, that will be done at our discretion." Im not reporting a bug or missing feature, im proposing a change that comes from SA so I put it in the place I figured was the most appropriate and you can go fuck off now.
No
Re: Make Poison a viable skill!!!
Posted: September 1st, 2017, 5:05 pm
by Veteran Noobie
Loler wrote:If you want more template diversity instead of going passed demise cut off why not go before publish 46?
When you could deathstrike without hiding and stealth.
When you had sticky specials and didnt need tactics to special.
nerve strike isnt breakable by damage.
enchanted apples dont have a timer but instead is limited by food consumption.
No hpi cap.
no ep cap and ecrus have 75 ep.
No 20 second cool down on evasion.
please do not forget evasion mages! (evasion did not require set amount of dex/parry only took bushido!)
Re: Make Poison a viable skill!!!
Posted: September 1st, 2017, 5:18 pm
by Loler
Omg no dex requirement for parry please
Re: Make Poison a viable skill!!!
Posted: September 30th, 2017, 12:05 pm
by Vander Nars
lets make this happen admins!!!! or atleast tell me no so I can move on.