UOG: Demise

Loler wrote:I think you guys are going about this the wrong way. Instead of punishing people for scripting all afk gathering should become legal. Bam everyone can afk farm and have the best stuff ever.

Amish Hammer wrote:

Loler wrote:I think you guys are going about this the wrong way. Instead of punishing people for scripting all afk gathering should become legal. Bam everyone can afk farm and have the best stuff ever.

why would you even bother playing the game at that point?

Loler wrote:

Amish Hammer wrote: why would you even bother playing the game at that point?

Probably for pvp which is the only reason some people still play. The pvm in this game is a joke.

The Silvertiger wrote:

Loler wrote:

Amish Hammer wrote: why would you even bother playing the game at that point?

People play demise because it's free, has a great community, and they like the era.

Llama Vortex wrote:Well people tend to blame other people for making bots, but what they ignore is that the way the system of game rewards is designed encourages this kind of behavior.

Most of high end items a player can desire is obtained by some repetitive task that has nothing to do with playing the actual game. You want a 5 mod armor or weapon? Create a bot to collect bods, to complete them and finally to craft the items and sort.  Want a good bow to PvP? Make a bot to collect wood, another to run heartwood.

Even PvM is highly botable, if you want a good lootbag you can make a bot to kill miasma endlessly. Want an orny? Well most people aren't able to run gountlet as a bot, but then again is a repetive task boring as hell.

One of the few desired items left for those interested in playing the game is ps's and champion artifacts but that got to get old with time.

OSI noticed this. Instead of trying to combat bots with staff supervision, they've put other players in charge of this.
All high end mobs are capable of giving an item (not only rings, but weapons and armors as well) that is usable on pvp and the chances of getting it in felluca are slightly higher. Trasure chests are also a good way of getting high end stuff. So if you want to better your chances you need to face the dangers of the pvp wold. You can still bot there, but if you do it for too long at some point someone will find you, specially if you increase the attractiveness of the dungeons in felluca.
Of course, if you want the peace o trammel you are still able to obtain good items there, but it will take more time.

Wrapping things up, in order to combat the bot population you need to put the most desired in game rewards to be obtained by a dangerous, non repetitve task, and a good way to achieve this is by putting players in charge of monitoring each other.

Demise's bot population is out of control. Probably at least half of the online character are performing a afk repetitive task. IMO, Demise needs desperately a revamp, what you think?

Bad Religion wrote:agree but what's even worse is a server with terrible casting, every player using a bow for pvp, and riding pets that should require taming to ride

Tempest wrote:. No one wants to put the time and effort into something they don't have to.

Otim O'Connel wrote:I agree about the loot. Every monster has a pack of useless loot mostly even when I used luck. I quit checking loot years ago. Occasionally I look at jewels. In 8 years I think I have picked up 5 items. And only one of them a ring off of a paragon skeletal dragon was amazing. I mean if its always garbage why even have it. Luck is designed in such a way that you have to basically be alone. Have a pet. And slowly kill and search through high end monsters for hours. And punishes you for not having luck by giving you nothing at all.