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We need a new Demise ( without Riding Swipe )

Posted: February 20th, 2019, 2:32 pm
by MarkHunt
It must be patched
Even if the horse's hit is not 100%, it should be able to be ridden after a certain period of time

The effect of a riding swipe must always be the same as the dismount skill

Re: We need a new Demise ( without Riding Swipe )

Posted: February 20th, 2019, 2:52 pm
by jings
I agree
Riding swipe is unfair

Re: We need a new Demise ( without Riding Swipe )

Posted: February 20th, 2019, 2:54 pm
by Chad Reed
AGREE

Re: We need a new Demise ( without Riding Swipe )

Posted: February 20th, 2019, 3:00 pm
by MarkHunt
Chad Reed wrote:AGREE
Riding wipe has to change

Re: We need a new Demise ( without Riding Swipe )

Posted: February 20th, 2019, 3:59 pm
by Chad Reed
AGREE, AND LOG OUT KAPERO

Re: We need a new Demise ( without Riding Swipe )

Posted: February 20th, 2019, 4:54 pm
by The Silvertiger
I'm sorry, riding swipe isn't going to lose the inability to ride a pet until pet is healed. I would suggest making a macro for casting close wounds or miniheal and mount hotkey.

Re: We need a new Demise ( without Riding Swipe )

Posted: February 20th, 2019, 6:12 pm
by Arden
Are alchy archers asking for a buff? Lmao

Re: We need a new Demise ( without Riding Swipe )

Posted: February 20th, 2019, 7:20 pm
by Loler
Imagine if it was like it was when it was released. The riding swiper could instantly remount after using the ability with no dismount timer for themselves. Also if the person who was riding swiped healed their pet they could instantly remount as well.

Re: We need a new Demise ( without Riding Swipe )

Posted: February 21st, 2019, 2:01 am
by Josh
Eh Riding swipe shouldnt be removed. I think it needs to be fixed, if your pet is half hp and u get dismounted riding swipe u have to heal it full, I may be wrong but I think that is incorrect. But overall i think it's fine to keep. It's meant to make melee dismounting better, melee dexxers need something to keep them strong. #dontnerfmeleechars

Re: We need a new Demise ( without Riding Swipe )

Posted: February 21st, 2019, 2:21 am
by Arden
Nah it’s osi accurate @josh

Diff is Demise allows you to ride cus ... most pets in pvp can be healed to full in 1-2 g heals. (Beatles being the excsption with 3)

Removing cus would actually fix riding swipe...

But what do I know about osi... pvp... and helping Demise

Re: We need a new Demise ( without Riding Swipe )

Posted: February 21st, 2019, 2:43 am
by DG
MarkHunt wrote:It must be patched
Even if the horse's hit is not 100%, it should be able to be ridden after a certain period of time

The effect of a riding swipe must always be the same as the dismount skill
The right way to request a change

According to Eos(https://www.uogdemise.com/community/vie ... &start=105),i think,there are THREE steps to ask for a bug fix or a balance fix:
  • [1]It is different from OSI,espcially not OSI era accurate.As far as i know,riding swipe on OSI works the same way as on Demise.I have never tested it on OSI,but here is the offical information.https://uo.com/wiki/ultima-online-wiki/ ... cial-moves

    [2]It is an OSI bug.The special looks bugged on OSI?Humm....

    [3]It greatly affects Demise pvp balance.The special is very effective for dexxers to dismount.All templates are vulnerable to dismounting.Especially non-casting templates,a dismounted archer/dexxer is usually a dead archer/dexxer.Even Cus cant help.The special is one of the key control abilities of dexxers.If nerfed,dexxers will be weaker and likely go extincted.Besides,riding swipe is completely counterable.
I think the best shot of you is to prove on OSI Cus will heal itself to full hp.Right now on Demise,Cus are very likely to stop banding itself when its health is at about 99%.In this case,you cant re-ride for ever unless you heal it...

The right way to counter riding swipe

I DONT WANT TO SHOW THE METHODS ANYMORE.....

A bit offtopic

Dont take pvp too seriously.Its just a game.We are glad to see SWAT rising.Now asian nights are the most active pvp time.Many of your ppl are new to server and have bad gears.You guys will gradually be more competetive.Most time My CHN guildmates are not in voice(i usually cant log on at nights).

Numbers are always important.You cant find even numbered fights very easily these days.But if you do wanna even fights,i will gladly arrange it.We can have archers 1v1,2v2 or anything you want.We even can have OSI casting mage duels.Under OSI casting,ping is no longer a huge influence on casting.Last time i asked for an osi casting duel,one of your guildmates said:"Piss Off".... :lol:

Re: We need a new Demise ( without Riding Swipe )

Posted: February 21st, 2019, 4:01 am
by HeroHui
DG wrote:
MarkHunt wrote:It must be patched
Even if the horse's hit is not 100%, it should be able to be ridden after a certain period of time

The effect of a riding swipe must always be the same as the dismount skill
The right way to request a change

According to Eos(https://www.uogdemise.com/community/vie ... &start=105),i think,there are THREE steps to ask for a bug fix or a balance fix:
  • [1]It is different from OSI,espcially not OSI era accurate.As far as i know,riding swipe on OSI works the same way as on Demise.I have never tested it on OSI,but here is the offical information.https://uo.com/wiki/ultima-online-wiki/ ... cial-moves

    [2]It is an OSI bug.The special looks bugged on OSI?Humm....

    [3]It greatly affects Demise pvp balance.The special is very effective for dexxers to dismount.All templates are vulnerable to dismounting.Especially non-casting templates,a dismounted archer/dexxer is usually a dead archer/dexxer.Even Cus cant help.The special is one of the key control abilities of dexxers.If nerfed,dexxers will be weaker and likely go extincted.Besides,riding swipe is completely counterable.
I think the best shot of you is to prove on OSI Cus will heal itself to full hp.Right now on Demise,Cus are very likely to stop banding itself when its health is at about 99%.In this case,you cant re-ride for ever unless you heal it...

The right way to counter riding swipe
  • Actively unmount yourself when there is a possiblity of being dismounted.
  • Immediatly heal your cu after being hit by riding swipe.Remember if your mount is fully healed once,you can re-ride it no matter how badly hurted afterwards.Its easier for mages to do this. However archers still have chance to close wound your mount,just like Silver Tiger said.
  • When being hit by riding swipe and unable to heal your mount,do not panic.Find chance to cast protection then ride an ethereal-mount.Right now,when with protection on,your remount attempt cant be disrupted even by para-blow(Bama has proved its a Demise bug,but now you still can use it).
  • Have a mage friend to help heal your mount right after being dismounted.
The methods above may not work every time,but they do save you time to time.

A bit offtopic

Dont take pvp too seriously.Its just a game.We are glad to see SWAT rising.Now asian nights are the most active pvp time.Many of your ppl are new to server and have bad gears.You guys will gradually be more competetive.Most time My CHN guildmates are not in voice(i usually cant log on at nights).

Numbers are always important.You cant find even numbered fights very easily these days.But if you do wanna even fights,i will gladly arrange it.We can have archers 1v1,2v2 or anything you want.We even can have OSI casting mage duels.Under OSI casting,ping is no longer a huge influence on casting.Last time i asked for an osi casting duel,one of your guildmates said:"Piss Off".... :lol:
Profession! Upstairs is a personal talent LOL :lol:

Re: We need a new Demise ( without Riding Swipe )

Posted: February 21st, 2019, 3:17 pm
by The Silvertiger
It's very serious.

Re: We need a new Demise ( without Riding Swipe )

Posted: February 21st, 2019, 5:52 pm
by Vitek-
Riding swipe works just like it does, and always has on OSI.

Learn to heal your pet.

Re: We need a new Demise ( without Riding Swipe )

Posted: February 21st, 2019, 9:25 pm
by royal kapero2
Nerf melee!