Make short spears 1-handed.

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Calvin wrote:
Josh wrote:What? No, this is dumb. They’re different weapons with different specials, don’t make the short spear 1h.

Your logic relies on a name being short and having a regular spear, this is not a good reason to make it 1h. Why not make all other axes 1h? There is a two handed axe already. Make double axe dual wield bc it has double in the name. Daisho, sai, runeblade, Tessen and Tegaki should get double stats bc you have to carry two of them.

is there actually a 1 handed axe in the game? tomohawk would be cool lol

but no i dont think anyone is gonna make changes like this sorry :P
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No there isn't, I presume it's bc lumberjacking modifies their damage and no other weapon has modifiers like that.
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honestly i dont think that would be terrible, you could balance the damage to work, and it'd open up interesting possibilities with character builds.

but yeah it's not in the game and it's not the sort of change that's made here generally, so i strongly doubt any of that will happen.

im sure Lord British had his reasons :P

but if you think about the roman pilum, they would all have one yeah, but they all throw it at the start of the battle, it's literally designed to break so the enemy cant then pick it up. then they lock shields and do a phalanx with short swords.

but that's a very specific way of doing battle. most people just had a pole arm because they are safer to use and just as deadly. most people didn't have a lot of armour.

i mean it's a fair point there's no thrown spears either, they only invented them in like 200,000BC.. but it's not the point really. that's the beauty of the game imo, it doesn't try to be comprehensive, but it masters it's own scale. like the uo map is tiny by modern standards
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The question for developers are balancing realism and balance. Balance should always come before realism.
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Calvin wrote:honestly i dont think that would be terrible, you could balance the damage to work, and it'd open up interesting possibilities with character builds.

but yeah it's not in the game and it's not the sort of change that's made here generally, so i strongly doubt any of that will happen.

im sure Lord British had his reasons :P

but if you think about the roman pilum, they would all have one yeah, but they all throw it at the start of the battle, it's literally designed to break so the enemy cant then pick it up. then they lock shields and do a phalanx with short swords.

but that's a very specific way of doing battle. most people just had a pole arm because they are safer to use and just as deadly. most people didn't have a lot of armour.

i mean it's a fair point there's no thrown spears either, they only invented them in like 200,000BC.. but it's not the point really. that's the beauty of the game imo, it doesn't try to be comprehensive, but it masters it's own scale. like the uo map is tiny by modern standards

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Josh wrote:The question for developers are balancing realism and balance. Balance should always come before realism.
this is an oooold one, but worthy of a repost i think :P

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Pick axe is 1 handed and counts as an axe for lumberjacking. although when i use a pick axe irl i use 2 hands.
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runic tinker kits?

might actually be something to consider, not sure if there's enough craftables tho
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Loler wrote:Pick axe is 1 handed and counts as an axe for lumberjacking. although when i use a pick axe irl i use 2 hands.
Eh don’t think you’re right on that one. I’m pretty sure it’s any *axe* that you can chop wood with. Can’t chop wood with pick axe (I don’t think, I honestly have never tested but I assume you can’t).

It’s not classified as an axe on uo.com’s wiki
https://uo.com/wiki/ultima-online-wiki/items/weapons/
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Josh wrote:
Loler wrote:Pick axe is 1 handed and counts as an axe for lumberjacking. although when i use a pick axe irl i use 2 hands.
Eh don’t think you’re right on that one. I’m pretty sure it’s any *axe* that you can chop wood with. Can’t chop wood with pick axe (I don’t think, I honestly have never tested but I assume you can’t).

It’s not classified as an axe on uo.com’s wiki
https://uo.com/wiki/ultima-online-wiki/items/weapons/
On Demise if you use a pickax as a weapon and not a mining tool you will gain in lumberjacking
Though I haven’t checked on this in a few months
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Its runuo base code counted towards lumberjacking bonus.
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Buying sick pickaxe :D
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Oh runuo code is dumb though. But it shouldn’t atleast.
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Josh wrote:Oh runuo code is dumb though. But it shouldn’t atleast.

Maybe so but it is what we have and use on Demise

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post those looted picks :D
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