Petition/Poll – Demise Punishment System
Posted: January 15th, 2020, 7:02 am
Hey all! I was hoping to get an idea on what the current (and past) players think about the current demise punishment system. Obviously, the goal being to use the poll as a sort of petition of staff to make changes (or not) based on votes. I will start by saying this post will be semi-long and I just request you read the all of my message before you vote/post.
Ok so here goes:
Currently, we can all agree that there is afk farming everywhere. From Miasma, to HeartWood, to Bods, to mining, to even karma, etc. In most cases many of us have named, recorded, screenshot, and paged on the most notorious of these. Yet these players still remain, collecting gold every moment further ruining the already destroyed demise economy. The point I want to make with all this is that the current system feels like it’s in place so that players don’t get banned. Banned players equals smaller population. Smaller population equals dead server. I argue that the opposite is true. If players AREN’T banned the population shrinks due to legit, non-cheating players leaving which equals a smaller population. Smaller population equals dead server. I can name 25+ players in KVG that left due to issues with afk farming versus literally only one I can name leaving for being banned (Opywang).
Now I can’t speak for staff, so I cannot begin to pretend to know what goes on that lets so many farm afk. But what I can speak to is the punishment system in place. I can do so from experience. Think of this as an ex-con telling all! The following is my best recollection of my experience as an AFK HW/Bod collector on Demise.
I was told when I started Demise 3 years ago to go to the official forums and use the HW script to make gold. So I did as I was so kindly told and started my heartwood empire. Four accounts running non stop 24/7. I was so excited gold checks started collecting very quickly. I was never checked for the first 6+months. I even set up a teamview to check in on my chars from work to ensure they didn’t accidentally get stuck/dc. After six months the “punishment” started.
Mind you every account was treated separately:
I will define an “offense” as a failed afk check by staff.
1st offense – warning
2nd offense – 6 hour suspend
3rd offense – 24 hour suspend
4th offense – 72 hour suspend
5th offense – 7 day (it seems) suspend – with every single HW item (runics and wood) deleted from my drop house (even items in boxes not hear my drop off point)
6th offense – 14 day ( I think) suspend
7th offense – 30 day (I think) suspend
8th offense – 60 day suspend and a warning from staff that I will lose my house next time – I assume that means the 9th was a 90 day suspend
9th offense – guessing here – 90 day suspend
10th offense - ????
So here is my question. Does the above punishment system work? Below is the poll I created to find out what you all think. Also, any more thoughts please post below.
The Poll:
https://www.ferendum.com/en-us/PID345725PSD27894
Ok so here goes:
Currently, we can all agree that there is afk farming everywhere. From Miasma, to HeartWood, to Bods, to mining, to even karma, etc. In most cases many of us have named, recorded, screenshot, and paged on the most notorious of these. Yet these players still remain, collecting gold every moment further ruining the already destroyed demise economy. The point I want to make with all this is that the current system feels like it’s in place so that players don’t get banned. Banned players equals smaller population. Smaller population equals dead server. I argue that the opposite is true. If players AREN’T banned the population shrinks due to legit, non-cheating players leaving which equals a smaller population. Smaller population equals dead server. I can name 25+ players in KVG that left due to issues with afk farming versus literally only one I can name leaving for being banned (Opywang).
Now I can’t speak for staff, so I cannot begin to pretend to know what goes on that lets so many farm afk. But what I can speak to is the punishment system in place. I can do so from experience. Think of this as an ex-con telling all! The following is my best recollection of my experience as an AFK HW/Bod collector on Demise.
I was told when I started Demise 3 years ago to go to the official forums and use the HW script to make gold. So I did as I was so kindly told and started my heartwood empire. Four accounts running non stop 24/7. I was so excited gold checks started collecting very quickly. I was never checked for the first 6+months. I even set up a teamview to check in on my chars from work to ensure they didn’t accidentally get stuck/dc. After six months the “punishment” started.
Mind you every account was treated separately:
I will define an “offense” as a failed afk check by staff.
1st offense – warning
2nd offense – 6 hour suspend
3rd offense – 24 hour suspend
4th offense – 72 hour suspend
5th offense – 7 day (it seems) suspend – with every single HW item (runics and wood) deleted from my drop house (even items in boxes not hear my drop off point)
6th offense – 14 day ( I think) suspend
7th offense – 30 day (I think) suspend
8th offense – 60 day suspend and a warning from staff that I will lose my house next time – I assume that means the 9th was a 90 day suspend
9th offense – guessing here – 90 day suspend
10th offense - ????
So here is my question. Does the above punishment system work? Below is the poll I created to find out what you all think. Also, any more thoughts please post below.
The Poll:
https://www.ferendum.com/en-us/PID345725PSD27894