UOG: Demise

atomic chicken wrote:

Tempest wrote:

Necrodog wrote:
Yes, it's not very good. They should have just slowed down recovery instead of purposefully introducing this "dropped spell" thing, which Eos claims is accurate.

Sounds like someone has his dick in a wad.

Just because you have never played with "True" casting, doesn't mean you have to hate on it. You holding down a button is the reason why you suck at this game, and you should be happy if this goes through instead of complaining.

P.S. - Your arsenal of game-breaking scripts that MB has issued will be unusable with this casting, perhaps this is the reason for your valiant efforts of bashing this topic.

Necrodog says "just increase the recovery" but homie that's what it is, it does it however long your spell was, that's how it is supposed to be, it incentivizes being smart with spells, allows recovering in a fight, while simply "adding recovery time" isnt enough, bc it still incentivizes spamming, which is what i think we should avoid, ask any of the people i've dueled, spamming is not the route to go, which is 90% of demise mage duels right now, which is boring and gross. While this casting rewards prediction, timing and holding spells (the third one i know some of you dont know what that is, it's when you cast a spell and dont use it until they cast something you want to disrupt). This casting is one of the closest interpretations of what osi casting is like. Many veteran players would flock to this server to play it if there was osi casting.
Also, status quo archers are hard hitters sure, I think malo is right that we need this casting and then address archers. I personally dont have that rough of a time vs archers. Beating an archer 1v1 is much harder than being 3 archers vs 3 mages, bc they rely on rng while the mages don't, and the factor of xheals (which no that's not just holding down a button that mini heals, it requires using gheals), disarms, bleed, para, sync dumping, etc. Any route you wanna go. I personally dropped an archer on this server with a book mage, and he ran into guardzone and I proceeded to kill him before he could call guards with a dump. I digress, it's not impossible to kill archers, the casting is beautiful, "the buggy disrupts" (as you put it) is meaningful and should stay with the casting bc utilizing that effectively is what separates good mages vs great mages. In conjunction, adding a fix to steam would greatly reduce archer effectiveness bc they wouldnt be able to use their steam macro scripts, which I think is the perfect solution to the problem. I think we start with casting first.

Honestly, dueling these last 2 days has been the funnest i've had in pvp in the last like 3 years.

Bad Religion wrote: They would just use EasyUO healing scripts instead if they arent already.

atomic chicken wrote:Your argument was (idk if it was yours too but it as Anthony's) that archers are too strong and I contend that scripts are the reason for this and osi 2/6 would not have a big enough effect in the difficulty of mage v archer to matter. A good mage can beat a good archer (and vice versa).

Vitek- wrote:

atomic chicken wrote:Your argument was (idk if it was yours too but it as Anthony's) that archers are too strong and I contend that scripts are the reason for this and osi 2/6 would not have a big enough effect in the difficulty of mage v archer to matter. A good mage can beat a good archer (and vice versa).

/disagree

Nobody uses crossbows on OSI. On here, concussion blows people the fuck up and gets stronger as the fight goes on since mana goes down to keep HP up. That *absolutely* needs to be adjusted for accuracy if the casting fix for accuracy goes in.

Also, diminshing returns was introduced in Pub57 along with Champ artifacts, and it isn't implemented here. Spamming mortal at full timer over and over, while having a broken concussion blow mechanic will imbalance the game very dramatically. Having both specials on the same bow with hit lightning is just insult to injury.

Vitek- wrote:Yea I wasn't advocating either way. The mechanics are okay right now when combined with quick casting but both diminishing returns and concussion need fixed along with it if it happens or archers will pretty much win every 1v1. Also, would we want to also include the 15 tile field range that's always been on OSI??

Tempest wrote:

Vitek- wrote:Yea I wasn't advocating either way. The mechanics are okay right now when combined with quick casting but both diminishing returns and concussion need fixed along with it if it happens or archers will pretty much win every 1v1. Also, would we want to also include the 15 tile field range that's always been on OSI??

Ever heard of disarm?

Guess not.

Vitek- wrote:

Tempest wrote:

Vitek- wrote:Yea I wasn't advocating either way. The mechanics are okay right now when combined with quick casting but both diminishing returns and concussion need fixed along with it if it happens or archers will pretty much win every 1v1. Also, would we want to also include the 15 tile field range that's always been on OSI??

Ever heard of disarm?

Guess not.

Don't sass me.