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Re: Bushido Mage

Posted: January 9th, 2018, 3:39 am
by GenghisXerxes
desalonne wrote:osi casting is 2/6 or 4/6 (if you use chiv with no magery)
demise is 6/12 or 10/12 (dw they will tell you its 2/6 or 4/6)
Appreciate the reply man.
What does 2/6, 4/6, 6/12 and 10/12 mean?
Timer? Cast time? Skill proportion?

Re: Bushido Mage

Posted: January 9th, 2018, 4:30 am
by desalonne
faster cast. and faster cast recovery.

Faster cast = speed of casting spells.


Faster cast recovery = speed in recovering from casting a spell and being able to cast the next one (aka if you fizzle on osi, theres about a 1-2 second delay on casting another spell, demise does not have this because the recovery is basically nonexistent so you can IMMEDIATELY recast your spell)

if you wanna see the casting in action, get some 1/3 jewels (1 fc , 3 fcr) both ring and brace. and just see the difference in speed at which you cast compared to you without them.

Re: Bushido Mage

Posted: January 9th, 2018, 6:05 am
by GenghisXerxes
desalonne wrote:faster cast. and faster cast recovery.

Faster cast = speed of casting spells.


Faster cast recovery = speed in recovering from casting a spell and being able to cast the next one (aka if you fizzle on osi, theres about a 1-2 second delay on casting another spell, demise does not have this because the recovery is basically nonexistent so you can IMMEDIATELY recast your spell)

if you wanna see the casting in action, get some 1/3 jewels (1 fc , 3 fcr) both ring and brace. and just see the difference in speed at which you cast compared to you without them.
Thanks for the explanation. I believe that's the reason behind the magic arrow fireball poison harm spams. With such high pressure, doesn't this make all other builds sort of irrelevant? Does this mean that the only useful thing about weapon skills is basically to utilize the special moves and the main bread and butter of offenses revolve around spell casting?

Re: Bushido Mage

Posted: January 9th, 2018, 7:31 am
by desalonne
That is correct. With the casting speed the way it is tho you need the ability to mortal an enemy or deadly poison them so they can't just mini heal spam through it.

You'll notice fights typically come down to which team can sync dump big spells better. But as far as 1v1s it's typically just 2 dudes holding the ma/fb script down and hoping they get a lucky mortal. Demise leaves much to be desired in the way of PvP balance. Honestly tho most of it stems from inaccurate casting.

Re: Bushido Mage

Posted: January 9th, 2018, 10:21 am
by Vander Nars
desalonne wrote:faster cast. and faster cast recovery.

Faster cast = speed of casting spells.


Faster cast recovery = speed in recovering from casting a spell and being able to cast the next one (aka if you fizzle on osi, theres about a 1-2 second delay on casting another spell, demise does not have this because the recovery is basically nonexistent so you can IMMEDIATELY recast your spell)

if you wanna see the casting in action, get some 1/3 jewels (1 fc , 3 fcr) both ring and brace. and just see the difference in speed at which you cast compared to you without them.
The casting delay was more like .3ish of a second, 1 or 2 seconds would be a Insane delay.

Re: Bushido Mage

Posted: January 9th, 2018, 11:07 am
by GenghisXerxes
desalonne wrote:That is correct. With the casting speed the way it is tho you need the ability to mortal an enemy or deadly poison them so they can't just mini heal spam through it.

You'll notice fights typically come down to which team can sync dump big spells better. But as far as 1v1s it's typically just 2 dudes holding the ma/fb script down and hoping they get a lucky mortal. Demise leaves much to be desired in the way of PvP balance. Honestly tho most of it stems from inaccurate casting.
With those ultra fast cast, why need ma? Why don't just spam fb all the way, with intermittent mortal/poison?

Re: Bushido Mage

Posted: January 10th, 2018, 7:56 am
by Centurion
So what fc and fcr should u get as a mage on Demise?

Re: Bushido Mage

Posted: January 10th, 2018, 8:25 am
by desalonne
@centurion 2/6.

@gengihis the Magic arrow casts almost instantly, the delay is slight enough here that if you spam fireball youll actually lose a tiny bit of damage (like 9-12 magic arrow damage) because of the slight delay between fireballs. so if you MA/FB you basically are getting a free 9-12 damage between your fb's