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Re: Put non luck garb and trinket on harrower

Posted: July 17th, 2019, 11:34 pm
by Arden
The Silvertiger wrote:Desa?
Nah just ideas from other servers with pvp populations :/

Re: Put non luck garb and trinket on harrower

Posted: July 18th, 2019, 12:36 am
by The Silvertiger
Arden wrote:
The Silvertiger wrote:Desa?
Nah just ideas from other servers with pvp populations :/
I meant the multi account. Idea's are just that.

Re: Put non luck garb and trinket on harrower

Posted: July 22nd, 2019, 8:33 pm
by Mr Straitions
Arden wrote:All too custom .....

Throw garb or trinket on Harry at like a 5% drop rate and I’d do it.

I’d also do spawns for a chance to get any runic in the game at the same drop rate as the pink scrolls with 20% charges rounded down.

For example-

Val, brsk, and hw would all be 3 charged
Verite 4
Hrsk 6
Etc.

Imaging being a new player. You’re doing a spawn in fel and you get a 3 charge val hammer. You get raided no scrolls etc. you still have just made ~10kk. Worse case you get a oak or like a spined Kit. Still COULD have been a val. New and old players would like it.

It also would help curve runic prices which could cut down on afk bod cheats like the folks we all know and love using 40+ accs

The only down side to this is with the new casting it's difficult to solo spawns.

Re: Put non luck garb and trinket on harrower

Posted: July 22nd, 2019, 10:48 pm
by Arden
Soloing spawns shouldn’t be a thing imo... spawns were never meant to be solod.

But ....

You can currently solo spawns with a base necro.

Also...

I am saying to drop like pink scrolls. There would be incentive for someone that can’t finish a spawn to still do lvl 1–3.

Re: Put non luck garb and trinket on harrower

Posted: July 22nd, 2019, 10:53 pm
by Vander Nars
Arden wrote:Soloing spawns shouldn’t be a thing imo... spawns were never meant to be solod.

But ....

You can currently solo spawns with a base necro.

Also...

I am saying to drop like pink scrolls. There would be incentive for someone that can’t finish a spawn to still do lvl 1–3.
MOTHER FUCKING THIS!!!!!!
Anyone that played AoS should know this.

Re: Put non luck garb and trinket on harrower

Posted: July 25th, 2019, 12:35 pm
by Mr Straitions
Remember when champs first came out? People thought spawns like rikki were impossible to complete lol.

We were also casting blade spirits and nox fields though.

Re: Put non luck garb and trinket on harrower

Posted: July 25th, 2019, 12:37 pm
by Mr Straitions
Also, the game has evolved. Who cares what the dev's intended... more than one person on a spawn is aids because the drop rates for significant rewards are so low.

Re: Put non luck garb and trinket on harrower

Posted: August 1st, 2019, 4:43 am
by Vander Nars
Mr Straitions wrote:Also, the game has evolved. Who cares what the dev's intended... more than one person on a spawn is aids because the drop rates for significant rewards are so low.
The game hasnt evolved, its gone to shit and everyone wants a fucking free handout. None you want to earn anything anymore.
Learn proper casting and pvp mechanics? naw just give em casting so fast that it hides the fact they havent learned a single thing.
Want high end gear? just flood the market with scripts to abuse turn in quest so every archer has weapons strong enough to make the shit pvpers cry unfair.
Want scrolls? fuck working with a team when the game can just be easy enough to 1man everything.

Re: Put non luck garb and trinket on harrower

Posted: August 1st, 2019, 1:37 pm
by Mr Straitions
Vander Nars wrote:
Mr Straitions wrote:Also, the game has evolved. Who cares what the dev's intended... more than one person on a spawn is aids because the drop rates for significant rewards are so low.
The game hasnt evolved, its gone to shit and everyone wants a fucking free handout. None you want to earn anything anymore.
Learn proper casting and pvp mechanics? naw just give em casting so fast that it hides the fact they havent learned a single thing.
Want high end gear? just flood the market with scripts to abuse turn in quest so every archer has weapons strong enough to make the shit pvpers cry unfair.
Want scrolls? fuck working with a team when the game can just be easy enough to 1man everything.

You're so pessimistic. MMOs require occasional dopamine drops for users to stay interested. Right now there isn't anything to work for

Re: Put non luck garb and trinket on harrower

Posted: August 1st, 2019, 1:48 pm
by Josh
If you constantly lose = no dopamine

Re: Put non luck garb and trinket on harrower

Posted: August 1st, 2019, 6:43 pm
by The Silvertiger
Josh wrote:If you constantly lose = no dopamine
When they login the 50 pvmer harrower and just thunderstorm you to death, they will win.

Re: Put non luck garb and trinket on harrower

Posted: August 2nd, 2019, 6:22 am
by Josh
The Silvertiger wrote:
Josh wrote:If you constantly lose = no dopamine
When they login the 50 pvmer harrower and just thunderstorm you to death, they will win.
L O L, kid you have no idea what you're talking about. We shit on hz 99.9% of the time in choke fights. Last harrower we had I was a scribe alchy mage, I didnt even bother putting on weaving, they're trash in a choke lol.

Re: Put non luck garb and trinket on harrower

Posted: August 2nd, 2019, 8:22 am
by The Silvertiger
Josh wrote:
The Silvertiger wrote:
Josh wrote:If you constantly lose = no dopamine
When they login the 50 pvmer harrower and just thunderstorm you to death, they will win.
L O L, kid you have no idea what you're talking about. We shit on hz 99.9% of the time in choke fights. Last harrower we had I was a scribe alchy mage, I didnt even bother putting on weaving, they're trash in a choke lol.
I bet they didn't have their 50 players on either. I mean literally 50. I've seen 20, but I know they have 50 that could log.

Re: Put non luck garb and trinket on harrower

Posted: August 2nd, 2019, 4:59 pm
by Mr Straitions
Vander Nars wrote:
Mr Straitions wrote:Also, the game has evolved. Who cares what the dev's intended... more than one person on a spawn is aids because the drop rates for significant rewards are so low.
The game hasnt evolved, its gone to shit and everyone wants a fucking free handout. None you want to earn anything anymore.
Learn proper casting and pvp mechanics? naw just give em casting so fast that it hides the fact they havent learned a single thing.
Want high end gear? just flood the market with scripts to abuse turn in quest so every archer has weapons strong enough to make the shit pvpers cry unfair.
Want scrolls? fuck working with a team when the game can just be easy enough to 1man everything.

I thought of another point to make. You want people to work for things in the game to get their dopamine right. here's the thing though. There is NOTHING more profitable on demise than afk farming with a script that's readily available on the first page of the cartographer section.

Why the fuck any new comers would choose anything else but hw on 3 accounts and a lumberjack on their 4th is unimaginable. Its significant income with minimal effort. You cant blame someone for taking the path of least resistance when they're getting started on a new server.

Re: Put non luck garb and trinket on harrower

Posted: August 2nd, 2019, 5:01 pm
by Mr Straitions
In other words, nothing is more profitable on demise than pressing play and not playing demise...

No wonder the economy is in the tank. No wonder people dont spawn, do peerless, whatever