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AsusROG
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New in Demise / several doubts

Post by AsusROG » April 6th, 2020, 9:49 am

Hi, first at all, Hope you all doing well staying at home (jaja), it's been a long time since I have not played UO a friend asked me to play this server, so here I Am I'll try to remember how to play,

I think I'll play with 3 main Pj's class (Mage / tamer, a Crafter (I dont know yet if Tailor or Blacksmy (accepting advises)) and a Sampire / whammy (completely new for me) as you could have noted i'll play mostly PVM, any advise will help me a lot

some questions are:
* where can i find monster to earn money (i mean around 700 - 1k per loot ) do this exist?
* Mage tamer: I've read about taming script, i'm now 52.x I'll check post here to get a better place to tame
* Craft: which skill do u recommend to create at the beginning at 50 for a tailor / blacksmy (mining, blacksmy, tailoring?) Amrs lore i know it's easy to raise
* Runic tools : are they craftables or just doing bulk orders?
* Sampire / whammy : I'll read a lit bit more before asking about it

Thanks in advice

PS: sorry for any mistake in my english - it's not my native language

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HornsOverIthaca
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Re: New in Demise / several doubts

Post by HornsOverIthaca » April 7th, 2020, 6:45 am

Yeah I'm also in the same boat. I was on Demise I think back in 2008. I've either forgotten most of what to do or things have changed somewhat.

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Calvin
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Re: New in Demise / several doubts

Post by Calvin » April 7th, 2020, 2:16 pm

what do you need to get started?

lrc suit?
100k iron ingots?
small house?
mempho, rbc, dph, fey legs, 10 hrsk?
couple of katanas?
blood ele mana leech slayer?

i can donate you these things if you want. they all pretty cheap and abundant.

as for your training questions.. quick google:

from a forum:
Training Blacksmithy
40.0 - 45.0 Mace
45.0 - 50.0 Maul
50.0 - 55.0 Cutlass
55.0 - 59.5 Longsword or Katana
59.5 - 95.6 Short Spear
95.6 - 106.4 Platemail Gorget
106.4 - 108.9 Platemail Gloves
108.9 - 116.3 Platemail Arms
116.3 - 118.8 Platemail Legs
118.8 - 120.0 Platemail Tunics

from UoGuide:
Training Blacksmithy
40.0 - 45.0 Mace
45.0 - 50.0 Maul
50.0 - 55.0 Cutlass
55.0 - 59.5 Longsword or Katana
59.5 - 70.5 Scimitar or Spear
70.5 - 106.4 Platemail Gorget
106.4 - 108.9 Platemail Gloves
108.9 - 116.3 Platemail Arms
116.3 - 118.8 Platemail Legs
118.8 - 120.0 Platemail Tunics

Tailoring from UOGuide:
0.0 - 29.0: Buy it from an NPC Tailor
29.0 - 35: Short Pants (6 Cloth)
35 - 41.4: Fur cape (13 Cloth)
41.4 - 50: Cloaks (14 Cloth)
50 - 54: Fur Boots (12 Cloth)
54 - 65: Robes (16 Cloth)
65 - 72: Kasa (10 Cloth)
72 - 78: Ninja Tabi (10 Cloth) (This will save some cloth until oil cloth is craftable.)
78 - 110: Oil Cloths (1 Cloth) This part is very slow at times
110 - 115.0: Elven Shirt (Brown) (10 Cloth)
115.0 - 120.0: Studded Hiro Sode (8 Leather)
Alternative Items to Make

90 - 115 Elven Shirt (Brown) 10 cloth each, faster gains than Oil Cloths from 90 - 110 but uses more cloth
105 - 110 Gargish Leather Chests Just bite the bullet here and go buy or gather between 10k -20k in regular leather, much faster gains.
110 - 117 Gargish Cloth Kilt 6 cloth each (can also take to 120)
117 - 120 Gargish Cloth Arms 8 cloth each
For a power gaming technique to train this skill see Satyr Trick


from forum:
Training Method
0 - 50 Train from NPC
45 - 55 cloaks
55 - 75 robes
75 - 99.6 oil cloths
99.6 - 100 studded tunics
100 - 120 studded tunics or Skill Scrolls.


runic tools are from Bulk orders, but just buy them from the farmers, it takes a long time to build up a stock of bods.

sampire, i'd make a swordsmen first, sampire costs a lot before it becomes usable.

taming script: https://www.uogdemise.com/community/vie ... f=10&t=171

and there's loads of monsters to kill :P
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Bama
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Re: New in Demise / several doubts

Post by Bama » April 7th, 2020, 3:26 pm

Calvin wrote:
April 7th, 2020, 2:16 pm
Training Blacksmithy
40.0 - 45.0 Mace
45.0 - 50.0 Maul
50.0 - 55.0 Cutlass
55.0 - 59.5 Longsword or Katana
59.5 - 95.6 Short Spear
95.6 - 106.4 Platemail Gorget
106.4 - 108.9 Platemail Gloves
108.9 - 116.3 Platemail Arms
116.3 - 118.8 Platemail Legs
118.8 - 120.0 Platemail Tunics

from UoGuide:
Training Blacksmithy
40.0 - 45.0 Mace
45.0 - 50.0 Maul
50.0 - 55.0 Cutlass
55.0 - 59.5 Longsword or Katana
59.5 - 70.5 Scimitar or Spear
70.5 - 106.4 Platemail Gorget
106.4 - 108.9 Platemail Gloves
108.9 - 116.3 Platemail Arms
116.3 - 118.8 Platemail Legs
118.8 - 120.0 Platemail Tunics

Tailoring from UOGuide:
0.0 - 29.0: Buy it from an NPC Tailor
29.0 - 35: Short Pants (6 Cloth)
35 - 41.4: Fur cape (13 Cloth)
41.4 - 50: Cloaks (14 Cloth)
50 - 54: Fur Boots (12 Cloth)
54 - 65: Robes (16 Cloth)
65 - 72: Kasa (10 Cloth)
72 - 78: Ninja Tabi (10 Cloth) (This will save some cloth until oil cloth is craftable.)
78 - 110: Oil Cloths (1 Cloth) This part is very slow at times
110 - 115.0: Elven Shirt (Brown) (10 Cloth)
115.0 - 120.0: Studded Hiro Sode (8 Leather)
Alternative Items to Make

90 - 115 Elven Shirt (Brown) 10 cloth each, faster gains than Oil Cloths from 90 - 110 but uses more cloth
105 - 110 Gargish Leather Chests Just bite the bullet here and go buy or gather between 10k -20k in regular leather, much faster gains.
110 - 117 Gargish Cloth Kilt 6 cloth each (can also take to 120)
117 - 120 Gargish Cloth Arms 8 cloth each
For a power gaming technique to train this skill see Satyr Trick


from forum:
Training Method
0 - 50 Train from NPC
45 - 55 cloaks
55 - 75 robes
75 - 99.6 oil cloths
99.6 - 100 studded tunics
100 - 120 studded tunics or Skill Scrolls.


runic tools are from Bulk orders, but just buy them from the farmers, it takes a long time to build up a stock of bods.
A faster and cheaper way to train those skills ( any skill) on Demise is to look at the crafting menu and as soon as you have the lowest % to succeed make that item. With Run/UO CODE you only gain in skills if there is a chance to fail. The greater your fail chance the more gains.


Once you can not fail making or doing something you will never gain
Gabba Gabba Hey!!!
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AsusROG
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Re: New in Demise / several doubts

Post by AsusROG » April 7th, 2020, 3:49 pm

Calvin wrote:
April 7th, 2020, 2:16 pm
what do you need to get started?

lrc suit?
100k iron ingots?
small house?
mempho, rbc, dph, fey legs, 10 hrsk?
couple of katanas?
blood ele mana leech slayer?

i can donate you these things if you want. they all pretty cheap and abundant.

as for your training questions.. quick google:

from a forum:
Training Blacksmithy
40.0 - 45.0 Mace
45.0 - 50.0 Maul
50.0 - 55.0 Cutlass
55.0 - 59.5 Longsword or Katana
59.5 - 95.6 Short Spear
95.6 - 106.4 Platemail Gorget
106.4 - 108.9 Platemail Gloves
108.9 - 116.3 Platemail Arms
116.3 - 118.8 Platemail Legs
118.8 - 120.0 Platemail Tunics

from UoGuide:
Training Blacksmithy
40.0 - 45.0 Mace
45.0 - 50.0 Maul
50.0 - 55.0 Cutlass
55.0 - 59.5 Longsword or Katana
59.5 - 70.5 Scimitar or Spear
70.5 - 106.4 Platemail Gorget
106.4 - 108.9 Platemail Gloves
108.9 - 116.3 Platemail Arms
116.3 - 118.8 Platemail Legs
118.8 - 120.0 Platemail Tunics

Tailoring from UOGuide:
0.0 - 29.0: Buy it from an NPC Tailor
29.0 - 35: Short Pants (6 Cloth)
35 - 41.4: Fur cape (13 Cloth)
41.4 - 50: Cloaks (14 Cloth)
50 - 54: Fur Boots (12 Cloth)
54 - 65: Robes (16 Cloth)
65 - 72: Kasa (10 Cloth)
72 - 78: Ninja Tabi (10 Cloth) (This will save some cloth until oil cloth is craftable.)
78 - 110: Oil Cloths (1 Cloth) This part is very slow at times
110 - 115.0: Elven Shirt (Brown) (10 Cloth)
115.0 - 120.0: Studded Hiro Sode (8 Leather)
Alternative Items to Make

90 - 115 Elven Shirt (Brown) 10 cloth each, faster gains than Oil Cloths from 90 - 110 but uses more cloth
105 - 110 Gargish Leather Chests Just bite the bullet here and go buy or gather between 10k -20k in regular leather, much faster gains.
110 - 117 Gargish Cloth Kilt 6 cloth each (can also take to 120)
117 - 120 Gargish Cloth Arms 8 cloth each
For a power gaming technique to train this skill see Satyr Trick


from forum:
Training Method
0 - 50 Train from NPC
45 - 55 cloaks
55 - 75 robes
75 - 99.6 oil cloths
99.6 - 100 studded tunics
100 - 120 studded tunics or Skill Scrolls.


runic tools are from Bulk orders, but just buy them from the farmers, it takes a long time to build up a stock of bods.

sampire, i'd make a swordsmen first, sampire costs a lot before it becomes usable.

taming script: https://www.uogdemise.com/community/vie ... f=10&t=171

and there's loads of monsters to kill :P
Hi Calvin, thank you in advance, of course I would like those things, i really appreciate it, plz tell me when we could find each other in game,

regards

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MMMartin
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Re: New in Demise / several doubts

Post by MMMartin » April 7th, 2020, 4:02 pm

AsusROG wrote:
April 6th, 2020, 9:49 am
Hi, first at all, Hope you all doing well staying at home (jaja), it's been a long time since I have not played UO a friend asked me to play this server, so here I Am I'll try to remember how to play,

I think I'll play with 3 main Pj's class (Mage / tamer, a Crafter (I dont know yet if Tailor or Blacksmy (accepting advises)) and a Sampire / whammy (completely new for me) as you could have noted i'll play mostly PVM, any advise will help me a lot

some questions are:
* where can i find monster to earn money (i mean around 700 - 1k per loot ) do this exist?
* Mage tamer: I've read about taming script, i'm now 52.x I'll check post here to get a better place to tame
* Craft: which skill do u recommend to create at the beginning at 50 for a tailor / blacksmy (mining, blacksmy, tailoring?) Amrs lore i know it's easy to raise
* Runic tools : are they craftables or just doing bulk orders?
* Sampire / whammy : I'll read a lit bit more before asking about it

Thanks in advice

PS: sorry for any mistake in my english - it's not my native language
some tips for start
0. chars 1K/each 7*4 you get start golds
1. create 4 accounts,chars best are ELF and skills buy 0.1 BS and tailor for bods,
3. craft with bowcraft and carpentry for HW quests
4. make chars 49 necro [necro book free quest]
5. https://demisesearch.azurewebsites.net/search/horned [you can buy any amors for sampire or LRC suit cheap]
6. make sword skill FRST and use soulseeker!!! most easy make golds with killing

my recomend frst killing [sometime i think you can kill them even with wresting xD]
http://www.uoguide.com/Wisp_Dungeon
http://www.uoguide.com/Wisp

* where can i find monster to earn money (i mean around 700 - 1k per loot ) do this exist?
YES EXIST [demons,blood,ancient lich, coil,miasma,spiderDH,IRK,ETC...]

* Mage tamer: I've read about taming script, i'm now 52.x I'll check post here to get a better place to tame
ridback, unicorps [buy ring/brace taming for them]

* Craft: which skill do u recommend to create at the beginning at 50 for a tailor / blacksmy (mining, blacksmy, tailoring?) Amrs lore i know it's easy to raise
useless on start, frst make BODS with 0.1 elf chars with carpentry and bowcraft [later craft is good]

* Runic tools : are they craftables or just doing bulk orders?
only way with BODS, but they can buy with vendors players selling
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HornsOverIthaca
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Re: New in Demise / several doubts

Post by HornsOverIthaca » April 7th, 2020, 5:38 pm

I've had two characters hit each other repeatedly yesterday to GM swordsmanship. Just like old times.

So, this is something I don't remember very well...

I'm assuming everyone has a smith character that is at least GM? Well I guess I do remember that. Anyway, what is the most efficient way to get the ingots you'd need to gain that skill? What about the cloth you'd need to get to GM in tailoring?

Also these two(?) quests in Heartwood... I've been looking through the forums and I see all kinds of debate about them, but not much explaining them. You need a mule character that can do fletching to make crossbows, and can tinker to make tinker tools... Then the NPCs give you gold...? What is the best way to get the materials to do that? Do you have to have a beetle? Everyone scripting that seems to.

AsusROG
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Re: New in Demise / several doubts

Post by AsusROG » April 7th, 2020, 6:30 pm

MMMartin wrote:
April 7th, 2020, 4:02 pm


some tips for start
0. chars 1K/each 7*4 you get start golds
1. create 4 accounts,chars best are ELF and skills buy 0.1 BS and tailor for bods,
3. craft with bowcraft and carpentry for HW quests
4. make chars 49 necro [necro book free quest]
5. https://demisesearch.azurewebsites.net/search/horned [you can buy any amors for sampire or LRC suit cheap]
6. make sword skill FRST and use soulseeker!!! most easy make golds with killing

my recomend frst killing [sometime i think you can kill them even with wresting xD]
http://www.uoguide.com/Wisp_Dungeon
http://www.uoguide.com/Wisp

* where can i find monster to earn money (i mean around 700 - 1k per loot ) do this exist?
YES EXIST [demons,blood,ancient lich, coil,miasma,spiderDH,IRK,ETC...]

* Mage tamer: I've read about taming script, i'm now 52.x I'll check post here to get a better place to tame
ridback, unicorps [buy ring/brace taming for them]

* Craft: which skill do u recommend to create at the beginning at 50 for a tailor / blacksmy (mining, blacksmy, tailoring?) Amrs lore i know it's easy to raise
useless on start, frst make BODS with 0.1 elf chars with carpentry and bowcraft [later craft is good]

* Runic tools : are they craftables or just doing bulk orders?
only way with BODS, but they can buy with vendors players selling
HI Martin, thanks for your tips, some question about them mainly (1 & 3)
0) Thanks I could get about 28k's right?
1) I think I read something about it from TANYA post but i dont know what to do with bod's Sell (to who) Npc or complete when you are GM Blacksmy / Tailor about reseting BOd's
3) (U miss 2 :p) I went to HW and saw Lot ppl on their beetle i think they are doing some quest (dont know which one and what are those rewards)
4) I'll check it out - thanks
6) Yeap I made a Sword and a Blacksmy / Tailor

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Calvin
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Re: New in Demise / several doubts

Post by Calvin » April 8th, 2020, 5:44 am

HornsOverIthaca wrote:
April 7th, 2020, 5:38 pm
I'm assuming everyone has a smith character that is at least GM? Well I guess I do remember that. Anyway, what is the most efficient way to get the ingots you'd need to gain that skill? What about the cloth you'd need to get to GM in tailoring?
buy them from npc vendors, the sell them at 3gp each i think

dont know about heartwood sry, never bothered with it.. i know it's broken and will change some day lol
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AsusROG
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Re: New in Demise / several doubts

Post by AsusROG » April 8th, 2020, 6:16 am

Calvin wrote:
April 8th, 2020, 5:44 am
HornsOverIthaca wrote:
April 7th, 2020, 5:38 pm
I'm assuming everyone has a smith character that is at least GM? Well I guess I do remember that. Anyway, what is the most efficient way to get the ingots you'd need to gain that skill? What about the cloth you'd need to get to GM in tailoring?
buy them from npc vendors, the sell them at 3gp each i think

dont know about heartwood sry, never bothered with it.. i know it's broken and will change some day lol
Hi Calvin i Sent u an MP, I'll be online if you are gonna help me as you said with some stuff, regards,

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Calvin
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Re: New in Demise / several doubts

Post by Calvin » April 8th, 2020, 6:18 am

g'wan then, i'll meet you at luna
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Re: New in Demise / several doubts

Post by Excorsion » April 9th, 2020, 6:30 pm

Taming is easy if you run a macro... just gotta find a pair or jewels to give you a total of 30 skill points in taming... and then just go do bulls in delucia...bulls will take you all the way to 120 if that is your goal but rigdebacks are faster.

I wouldn't suggest a sampire as a starting toon.... they require alot of gear and you need runic crafted pieces aswell to fill in the missing pieces...same with necro weave tamers... I'd suggest a prov tamer or a disc tamer.. both of which are easy to play and can fund you making the sampire or necro weave tamer. another template that runs quite well is archer tamer...Cu sidhe's seem to be the bee's knees atm for general farming.. just don't fall for the buy this colored one for millions trap... get one with great stats.

HW quests don't give gold... they give hw runics (saws and kits). Need carpentry fletching and tinering for the script... I have a toon i run the script on while i watch shows in my man cave...He is 65 magery gm carp tink fletch mining lumberjack and armslore.. with rest in med. that way I can gather wood or ingots or run the script for the runics.

My current tamer is disc tamer... I can solo most mobs in game with just him and cu sidhe or I hit up destard with a greater and play there for the hell of it. only really thing i use my sampire and necro weave tamer for is champ spawns, peerless and doom...
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Re: New in Demise / several doubts

Post by The Silvertiger » April 11th, 2020, 5:54 pm

AsusROG wrote:
April 6th, 2020, 9:49 am
* where can i find monster to earn money (i mean around 700 - 1k per loot ) do this exist?
This is not an all inclusive list

Blood Elementals
Balrons
Succubus
Oni
Hiryu
Lesser Hiryu
Rune Beetle
Yamandon
Dragon
Greater Dragon
White Wyrm
Artic Ogre Lords
Shadow Wyrm
Ancient Wyrm
Titan(?)
Crystal Lattice Seeker
Miasma
Coil
Twisted Weald spiders
Etc

I don't know what your build progress is currently. However, there are some good options here.

First, imo, is white wyrm. Use a mage variant with a reptile or dragon Slayer spellbook. If using a necromage animate for nice tanks. Weaver or pure just use whatever summons you can. Tamer use a cu or greater. Go big explo-fs or explo-meteor followed by fireball (if in fel continue big spells.) Make sure you loot the hides, cut up, and sell to other players. Ice Dungeon. Fel is better. High risk high reward.

Succubus is a highly underrated farm. If you can mitigate the damage and put out some too, this is a great source of gold and jewelry. Prefer an archer here with demon Slayer, but a mage with a demon Slayer spellbook can be used as well. I don't suggest killing paragon's. You're kicking yourself in the foot basically with all the wasted time. My preference is sanctuary.

People like killing blood Elementals, but I don't particularly care for them. Best option is tamer. Either archer or mage. Elemental or blood Elemental Slayer( :D ) is best, but not needed. Go big explo-ebolt and continue ebolting. You can do ilshenar, tram, or Fel here. Fel Shame is the best and most annoying.

Miasma is nice if you have the ability to tank or there is someone else there to tank for you. This is one of the most popular places. They drop 3-4k gp each kill. So if you can get looting rights every time and there's no more than 4 people total including yourself, it will meet your threshold. Note this is where you will find the decepticons.

What I don't recommend: balrons, greater dragons, ancient wyrms, and yamandons. The first three just have too much hp without a great weakness to exploit. Yamandon has too much hp + it hits like a Mack truck.

Not on the initial list because they don't drop 800gp per loot: wyverns and lizardmen. Gold is the byproduct. Your main goal is leather. Wyverns are more profitable if you can find or setup a nice farming spot. For lizardmen I suggest Fel Despise or the lizardmen camp south of ilshenar humility. Wyverns I suggest Fel Destard or the ancient wyrm spot north east of ilshenar compassion. You will have to lure the aw away if it's not already lured.

Lastly, I would say don't get stuck on a number. Dread spiders only drop about 500, but are much more profitable than many on the list because of kill time.

Most of all you want to have fun. So don't grind yourself until you're burnout.
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