What is wrong with UO (large text)
- Llama Vortex
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What is wrong with UO (large text)
Well people tend to blame other people for making bots, but what they ignore is that the way the system of game rewards is designed encourages this kind of behavior.
Most of high end items a player can desire is obtained by some repetitive task that has nothing to do with playing the actual game. You want a 5 mod armor or weapon? Create a bot to collect bods, to complete them and finally to craft the items and sort. Want a good bow to PvP? Make a bot to collect wood, another to run heartwood.
Even PvM is highly botable, if you want a good lootbag you can make a bot to kill miasma endlessly. Want an orny? Well most people aren't able to run gountlet as a bot, but then again is a repetive task boring as hell.
One of the few desired items left for those interested in playing the game is ps's and champion artifacts but that got to get old with time.
OSI noticed this. Instead of trying to combat bots with staff supervision, they've put other players in charge of this.
All high end mobs are capable of giving an item (not only rings, but weapons and armors as well) that is usable on pvp and the chances of getting it in felluca are slightly higher. Trasure chests are also a good way of getting high end stuff. So if you want to better your chances you need to face the dangers of the pvp wold. You can still bot there, but if you do it for too long at some point someone will find you, specially if you increase the attractiveness of the dungeons in felluca.
Of course, if you want the peace o trammel you are still able to obtain good items there, but it will take more time.
Wrapping things up, in order to combat the bot population you need to put the most desired in game rewards to be obtained by a dangerous, non repetitve task, and a good way to achieve this is by putting players in charge of monitoring each other.
Demise's bot population is out of control. Probably at least half of the online character are performing a afk repetitive task. IMO, Demise needs desperately a revamp, what you think?
Most of high end items a player can desire is obtained by some repetitive task that has nothing to do with playing the actual game. You want a 5 mod armor or weapon? Create a bot to collect bods, to complete them and finally to craft the items and sort. Want a good bow to PvP? Make a bot to collect wood, another to run heartwood.
Even PvM is highly botable, if you want a good lootbag you can make a bot to kill miasma endlessly. Want an orny? Well most people aren't able to run gountlet as a bot, but then again is a repetive task boring as hell.
One of the few desired items left for those interested in playing the game is ps's and champion artifacts but that got to get old with time.
OSI noticed this. Instead of trying to combat bots with staff supervision, they've put other players in charge of this.
All high end mobs are capable of giving an item (not only rings, but weapons and armors as well) that is usable on pvp and the chances of getting it in felluca are slightly higher. Trasure chests are also a good way of getting high end stuff. So if you want to better your chances you need to face the dangers of the pvp wold. You can still bot there, but if you do it for too long at some point someone will find you, specially if you increase the attractiveness of the dungeons in felluca.
Of course, if you want the peace o trammel you are still able to obtain good items there, but it will take more time.
Wrapping things up, in order to combat the bot population you need to put the most desired in game rewards to be obtained by a dangerous, non repetitve task, and a good way to achieve this is by putting players in charge of monitoring each other.
Demise's bot population is out of control. Probably at least half of the online character are performing a afk repetitive task. IMO, Demise needs desperately a revamp, what you think?
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I agree
All my characters are filling bods right now. They are filling bods day and night.
This is all I do last time in game, because I want to get nice weapons and nice armor.
I was always wondering, why 99% of loot from monsters is junk, I never saw a nice usable piece of armor in loot.
All my characters are filling bods right now. They are filling bods day and night.
This is all I do last time in game, because I want to get nice weapons and nice armor.
I was always wondering, why 99% of loot from monsters is junk, I never saw a nice usable piece of armor in loot.
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Tanya wrote:I agree
All my characters are filling bods right now. They are filling bods day and night.
This is all I do last time in game, because I want to get nice weapons and nice armor
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You see Tanya your problem is you are only using 4 accounts
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I feel you, and prolly that's one of the best arguments I saw so far about the issue of afk farming. I thank you for sharing your point of view and I agree with it.
Still, I think what should be highlighted is that AFK farming is a fact, only a fool can deny it, which is very-very different of treat it like a natural thing. You are bringin afk farming as a problem, and thats what afk farming is: a problem. UO is very unfair about rewarding players, still, this dont justify cheating. The thing is, as I said, cheating is a fact. We'll prolly never put awareness in the heads that acts justifying their ends by their means. Its easier to create ways to make insatiable people get what they want inside the system than try to put some conscience on them.
Still, I think what should be highlighted is that AFK farming is a fact, only a fool can deny it, which is very-very different of treat it like a natural thing. You are bringin afk farming as a problem, and thats what afk farming is: a problem. UO is very unfair about rewarding players, still, this dont justify cheating. The thing is, as I said, cheating is a fact. We'll prolly never put awareness in the heads that acts justifying their ends by their means. Its easier to create ways to make insatiable people get what they want inside the system than try to put some conscience on them.
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So you just admitted to afk farming day and night......Tanya wrote:I agree
All my characters are filling bods right now. They are filling bods day and night.
This is all I do last time in game, because I want to get nice weapons and nice armor.
I was always wondering, why 99% of loot from monsters is junk, I never saw a nice usable piece of armor in loot.
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AFK bot farming is inevitable,as long as there are repetitive tasks.It applies not only to a game,but also to the real world.Why they develop AI technology in the first place?Because there are so many repetitive and boring works in reality:)
To encourage players to actually play the game,the most direct method is that ingame tasks are turned to non-repetitive ones which can only be done once.However it brings a new problem.You need a huge number of non-repetitive tasks to keep players playing,which means new contents should be added now and then.More work for EOS:P
Another way is to 'put other players in charge of this'.Never seen players afk farming in spawns,farming in fel is always risky.Farming in fel should be more rewarding,so players will be more active in fel,which will solve the afk farming problem in a degree.
To encourage players to actually play the game,the most direct method is that ingame tasks are turned to non-repetitive ones which can only be done once.However it brings a new problem.You need a huge number of non-repetitive tasks to keep players playing,which means new contents should be added now and then.More work for EOS:P
Another way is to 'put other players in charge of this'.Never seen players afk farming in spawns,farming in fel is always risky.Farming in fel should be more rewarding,so players will be more active in fel,which will solve the afk farming problem in a degree.
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There is nothing wrong with filling bods afk.Ajani wrote:So you just admitted to afk farming day and night......Tanya wrote:I agree
All my characters are filling bods right now. They are filling bods day and night.
This is all I do last time in game, because I want to get nice weapons and nice armor.
I was always wondering, why 99% of loot from monsters is junk, I never saw a nice usable piece of armor in loot.
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yeah boost more FELL Pvm loot so ur guild can farm more blood elementals in Shame....DG wrote:AFK bot farming is inevitable,as long as there are repetitive tasks.It applies not only to a game,but also to the real world.Why they develop AI technology in the first place?Because there are so many repetitive and boring works in reality:)
To encourage players to actually play the game,the most direct method is that ingame tasks are turned to non-repetitive ones which can only be done once.However it brings a new problem.You need a huge number of non-repetitive tasks to keep players playing,which means new contents should be added now and then.More work for EOS:P
Another way is to 'put other players in charge of this'.Never seen players afk farming in spawns,farming in fel is always risky.Farming in fel should be more rewarding,so players will be more active in fel,which will solve the afk farming problem in a degree.
Before archer runics best bows were from loot.Tanya wrote:I agree
All my characters are filling bods right now. They are filling bods day and night.
This is all I do last time in game, because I want to get nice weapons and nice armor.
I was always wondering, why 99% of loot from monsters is junk, I never saw a nice usable piece of armor in loot.
Like non di Hit spell yumis that 3 shot ppl , but yes armors are still crap from loot even if u encht them.
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Not sure whats your point.it has nothing to do with guilds.i would appreciate it if you made more constructive suggestions.Shallan wrote: yeah boost more FELL Pvm loot so ur guild can farm more blood elementals in Shame....
I do think new contents with non-repetitive tasks and more fel activities will help relieve the afk farming problem.Many pvm players dont like fel things.One of my friends has played Demise for 14 years,yet never been in fel for one minute.I respect that.Everyone can has his own playstyle.For pvm players,adding new contents seems to be the only way to keep them from afk playing.
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Bottom line is easy uo and steam ruined everything
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i Agree with Llama Vortex,
i started playing uo at 14 years old, and i did all this repetitive thing not because they were less boring back then, it was because i had the time, now i am 30 years old and i just cant aford to be in the pc so manny hours.
I think, that even if bots are not a good thing to UO, they are here to stay, just because the population of uo players has gotten older and wont be in the pc the hours they used to be.
Making more atractive felucca its a very good option, but i dont think it solves it all. you must leave an option for active players who dont like pvp.
Maybe a kind of "mini champs" could be implemented where the loot of these champs is boosted, and spawned in ishnear, tokuno and malas.
i started playing uo at 14 years old, and i did all this repetitive thing not because they were less boring back then, it was because i had the time, now i am 30 years old and i just cant aford to be in the pc so manny hours.
I think, that even if bots are not a good thing to UO, they are here to stay, just because the population of uo players has gotten older and wont be in the pc the hours they used to be.
Making more atractive felucca its a very good option, but i dont think it solves it all. you must leave an option for active players who dont like pvp.
Maybe a kind of "mini champs" could be implemented where the loot of these champs is boosted, and spawned in ishnear, tokuno and malas.
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- The Silvertiger
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It seems that afk resource gathering is like speeding. Everyone does it, but no one is a criminal.
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Gauntlet is 100% afkable
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